Is chest X ray necessary to rule out PNX after thoracic maneuvers?

Clinical Scenario

It’s a busy day in ED this morning. 

The first patient refers dyspnoea, he has an advanced pulmonary neoplasia, ultrasound and chest x-ray confirm that the left zone is occupated by a pleural effusion. The thoracentesis removes about 1.5 liter of fluid, the patient breathes easily.

The second patient is 65 yo, he has pneumonia, he is septic, it’s impossible to find a vein, the right internal jugular vein is identified by ultrasound and the catheterization is performed without any problem.   

Is it necessary in this cases to perform a chest  X-ray to rule out a PNX?

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Pleuritic Pain, the end of the saga...

Clinical Scenario

A 33 y/o woman, comes to the ED because of a sudden emithorax pain on the left in basal region. The pain is described as stabbing, well localized, it worsen with inspirium …a pleuritic pain, no cough, no fever, not hemoptysis. She smokes, she does not take any medication. 

Chest x ray is normal. You receive blood test: WBC 7.500/mcL, CRP 20 mg/dl , D-dimer 603 ng/ml

We have seen in the previous post that we can’t rule out the possibility to find a radio-occult lesion based on our blood test, but on the other hand specificity is poor, so what are we looking for?

What does pleuritic pain means? 

If you ask wikipedia… the answer is frightful…

What if you ask to your probe?

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Can Ultrasound rule out a pneumothorax?

Clinical Scenario

You are allerted for a level 3 trauma from the mountain, a cyclist has fallen going down hill.

You prepar the shock room with everything you may need, dress up, and wait.

A 25 y/o cyclist arrives completely immobilized, you immidiately start to  perform ABCDE as you learned in your recent ATLS course (you feel confident).

First stop is a possible problem in “B” (breathing): he has an ecchimosis on the right emithorax, not crepitation, maybe there is a less vescicular murmur on the same side, but you are not sure (the shock room is very crowded an noisy!), he is slightely tachypnoic (RR is 24), O2 saturation is 96%. …you go on….in “E” (Exposure) you find an exposed, bleeding, thigh bone fracture that surly is going to need surgery, at the moment you stop the bleeding, stabilize, allert orthopedic…ect…

FAST is normal. You ask for X-Ray : anteroposterior (AP) chest x-ray, pelvis and thigh bone. Confirmed exposed fracture, no signs of pneumothorax, surgery room is ready…

You recently have reeded the previous post and you don't feel confident about a negative thorax x ray, so you decide to “extend” your FAST and on the right emithorax you find a "lung point"...

are you going to let this patient be intubated?

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Thoracic trauma and chest X-Ray

Clinical Scenario

You are alerted for a level 3 trauma coming from the mountain, a cyclist has fallen going down hill.

You prepare the shock room with everything you may need, dress up, and wait.

A 25 y/o cyclist arrives completely immobilized, you immediately start to  perform ABCDE as you learned in your recent ATLS course (...you feel confident).

First stop is a possible problem in “B” (breathing): he has an ecchimosis on the right emithorax, not crepitation, maybe there is a less vescicular murmur on the same side, but you are not sure (the shock room is very crowded an noisy!), he is slightely tachypnoic (RR is 24), O2 saturation is 96%. …you go on….in “E” (Exposure) you find an exposed, bleeding, thigh bone fracture that surly is going to need surgery, at the moment you stop the bleeding, stabilize, allert orthopedic…ect…

FAST is normal. You ask for X-Ray: anteroposterior (AP) chest x-ray, pelvis and thigh bone. Radiologist confirms exposed fracture, no signs of pneumothorax, surgery room is ready...

…Do you still feel confident?

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